CBS Interview with Pope Francis sparks reactions
In a CBS interview with Pope Francis, the first pope from the Americas and a notable advocate for the poor and marginalized, he discusses various pressing global and Church-related issues. The interview, conducted in Spanish and translated, highlights a number of key issues including what some are saying stray from the core teachings of the faith.
Key Topics and Responses:
- World Children’s Day and Global Crises:
- Pope Francis emphasizes the plight of children in conflict zones like Gaza and Ukraine, expressing sorrow over their suffering and loss of innocence. He remarked, “You know something? That those children don’t know how to smile? … they have forgotten how to smile. And that is very painful.”
- He calls for an end to wars and a focus on negotiated peace: “Please, warring countries, all of them, stop. Stop the war. You must find a way of negotiating for peace. Strive for peace. A negotiated peace is always better than an endless war.”
- Antisemitism and Ideologies:
- He condemns antisemitism and any ideological hatred, advocating for criticism of governments rather than peoples: “All ideology is bad, and antisemitism is an ideology, and it is bad. Any ‘anti’ is always bad. You can criticize one government or another, the government of Israel, the Palestinian government. You can criticize all you want, but not ‘anti’ a people. Neither anti-Palestinian nor antisemitic. No.”
- Migration:
- Drawing from his family’s experience fleeing fascism, he underscores the positive contributions of migrants and criticizes efforts to block humanitarian aid to migrants, calling such actions “madness.” He said, “Migration is something that makes a country grow… But, migrants sometimes suffer a lot. They suffer a lot.”
- On closing borders to migrants: “The migrant has to be received. Thereafter you see how you are going to deal with him. Maybe you have to send him back, I don’t know, but each case ought to be considered humanely. Right?”
- Sexual Abuse in the Church:
- Acknowledging the Church’s failures, Pope Francis insists on zero tolerance and continuous efforts to prevent abuse and support victims: “It must continue to do more. Unfortunately, the tragedy of the abuses is enormous. And against this, an upright conscience and not only to not permit it but to put in place the conditions so that it does not happen.”
- He emphasizes: “It cannot be tolerated. When there is a case of a religious man or woman who abuses, the full force of the law falls upon them. In this there has been a great deal of progress.”
- Homosexuality and Church Teachings:
- While maintaining traditional doctrine against blessing same-sex unions, he supports blessing everyone as individuals but not a union that is against what God has made. “What I allowed was not to bless the union. That cannot be done because that is not the sacrament. I cannot. The Lord made it that way. But to bless each person, yes. The blessing is for everyone. For everyone.”
- He reiterated his stance on the gospel for all people: “You have to be open to everything. The Church is like that: Everyone, everyone, everyone. ‘That so-and-so is a sinner…?’ Me too, I am a sinner. Everyone! The Gospel is for everyone. If the Church places a customs officer at the door, that is no longer the church of Christ..”
- Criticism and Church Reforms:
- He addresses criticism from certain bishops, promoting openness and adaptation without abandoning core traditions: “Because one thing is to take tradition into account, to consider situations from the past, but quite another is to be closed up inside a dogmatic box.”
- On women’s roles in the Church, he opposes ordaining women as priests or deacons but has increased their roles within the Church hierarchy.
- Controversial Issues:
- Pope Francis discusses surrogate motherhood, emphasizing the moral complexities and advocating for careful case-by-case consideration, highlighting adoption as an alternative: “In regard to surrogate motherhood, in the strictest sense of the term, no, it is not authorized. Sometimes surrogacy has become a business, and that is very bad. It is very bad.”
- Hope and Human Goodness:
- Reflecting on the world, he finds hope in people’s fundamental goodness, resilience, and the widespread desire for a better future: “Everything. You see tragedies, but you also see so many beautiful things. You see heroic mothers, heroic men, men who have hopes and dreams, women who look to the future. That gives me a lot of hope. People want to live. People forge ahead. And people are fundamentally good. We are all fundamentally good.”
- His comments here have sparked controversy because the Bible says we are inherently bad and need a Savior in Jesus Christ to save us from our sins.
Pope Francis’s responses reflect his commitment to compassion, dialogue, and addressing modern challenges while adhering to traditional Catholic values.