Governor’s Podcast Debut with Charlie Kirk Signals Political Shift
As the Democratic party struggles with its identity amid a leadership crisis and widely unpopular policies, California Governor Gavin Newsom has ignited discussion with his latest venture—a podcast titled This is Gavin Newsom—where his first guest was none other than conservative commentator Charlie Kirk. In a striking departure from the Democratic Party’s typical playbook, Newsom voiced opposition to transgender women competing in girls’ and women’s sports, calling it “deeply unfair” during the 81-minute conversation released Thursday morning.
An Issue of Fairness
“It’s an issue of fairness—I completely agree with you,” Newsom responded to Kirk, who called him out on the recent case including that of a transgender high school track athlete in California whose participation has dominated women’s track and field. “It’s deeply unfair,” continued Newsom. His stance marks a significant pivot for a governor long seen as a progressive stalwart.
The podcast, produced by iHeartPodcasts, appears to be Newsom’s attempt to bridge divides and engage directly with opposing viewpoints—a move he hinted at last month when he promised to feature “MAGA favorites” alongside Democratic voices. Kirk, the founder of Turning Point USA and a prominent figure in conservative circles, praised Newsom’s willingness to dialogue, noting his influence on younger voters. “I’ve been at this for 13 years,” Kirk said, asking whether the youth vote could shift “10 points over 10 years.” Newsom responded affirmatively, acknowledging Kirk’s impact: “You are making a da*n dent.” Newsom shared that his 13-year-old son is a big fan of Kirk’s and asked if he could take the day off of school to attend the interview.
Shifting Political Winds
Reactions poured in swiftly. Conservative X users hailed the moment, others see it as Newsom pandering to a shifting political wind following President Trump’s recent electoral success. Rob Schmitt, a Newsmax host, took to X to slam the governor: “He destroyed his state for years. He was the king of Cali woke ****. Suddenly Trump wins and the winds change. We get this. SO fake.” Others see it as a calculated move by a politician eyeing a national stage, adapting to a public opinion that is 70% or more against men in women’s sports.
The timing is notable. Just days ago, Senate Democrats blocked a Republican-led bill to ban transgender girls from female youth sports, underscoring the issue’s potency in the culture wars. Newsom’s comments could signal a broader recalibration within the Democratic Party as it grapples with its post-2024 identity.
For now, This is Gavin Newsom promises more headline-grabbing moments, with the governor teasing a lineup that might include other conservative heavyweights. Whether this is a genuine olive branch or a savvy political play, one thing is clear: Newsom’s voice—and his unexpected takes—are poised to keep the conversation buzzing.